Su: Gurudev's thought for the day:
A temple of God is not so glorious as the house of His devotees; for in the latter He lives while in the former He only waits!!
VN: Hari Om! Couldnt participate in the discussions. Really beautiful ones...giving me more clarity and a lot of reminders. Thank you Swamiji and everyone.
SB: 🙏🙏🙏 quietly watching and learning. Thank you all.
SS: Verse 6: to chant or sing (glories of the Lord) is good. Superior to that is loud japa. Superior to loud japa is soft japa. Superior to soft japa is japa done by the mind. Effortless japa(japa-dhyanam) is the subtlest.
Uttama-stavaad uccha-mandatah.
Chittajam japa-dhyaanam uttamam.
This verse gives us the order of subtlety in practice of Japa. Ramana Maharshi covers pooja, japa and chintanam one after another after mentioning it in verse 4. In verse 5 he spoke about pooja. Now he mentions about japa.
Uttama-stava: It is said that chanting vedic mantras and hymns is superior and subtler to singing non-vedic hymns, stuties and stotrams. Why?
VN: Is it because stuties and stotrams are for a form of the Lord and Vedic Mantras are on the formless?
SS: Vedic hymns like rudram, narayana suktam, ganapati atharva are for form too. Also there are enuf stotrams for formless which are non-vedic. Eg nirvana shatkam
VN: Oh ok
VS: Swamiji is it because the Vedic hymns are not composed but are always present in the cosmos and heard by great Rishis.
So whenever they are chanted they move around like sound waves and have specific effects.
MN: Yeah I agree to an extent
I mean it is said Gayatri Mantra was revealed to Sage Yagnavalkya when he was meditating
Does anyone know any other Vedic hymns that are revelations and not composed by a particular author?
VS: So far as I know all Vedas fall under this and are therefore called Shruthis...
SS: Bingo vinod. 👍. Vedic mantras are revelations to the Rishis. They are not composed by humans. They are also science of sound vibrations and mantras chanted in intonations produce specific vibrations. Pranayama also happens automatically while chanting these mantras. Eg. If you chsnt ganapati atharvashirsha, the form of ganesha appears Automatically. Experiments have proved it.
Shlokas and stutis are composed by rishis and are not science of sound though they also produce some vibrations.
What is important is devotion in chanting or singing overrides everything.
MN: Wow I didn't know all of this...Thank you so much Swamiji for sharing this😇
VS: So are they superior because they give faster results... or they connect faster... Swamiji?
So is Gayatri Mantra superior? But we find it so comfortable imagining a Lord by chanting a simpler Japa mantra. Why is it so?
SS: Superior only due to it being a revelation and science of sound. Yes gayatri mantra is the second most powerful mantra after om. Its the essence of vedic knowledge. Japa also uses vedic mantras or puranic mantras and is powerful method.
VS: Thanks Swamiji
A temple of God is not so glorious as the house of His devotees; for in the latter He lives while in the former He only waits!!
VN: Hari Om! Couldnt participate in the discussions. Really beautiful ones...giving me more clarity and a lot of reminders. Thank you Swamiji and everyone.
SB: 🙏🙏🙏 quietly watching and learning. Thank you all.
SS: Verse 6: to chant or sing (glories of the Lord) is good. Superior to that is loud japa. Superior to loud japa is soft japa. Superior to soft japa is japa done by the mind. Effortless japa(japa-dhyanam) is the subtlest.
Uttama-stavaad uccha-mandatah.
Chittajam japa-dhyaanam uttamam.
This verse gives us the order of subtlety in practice of Japa. Ramana Maharshi covers pooja, japa and chintanam one after another after mentioning it in verse 4. In verse 5 he spoke about pooja. Now he mentions about japa.
Uttama-stava: It is said that chanting vedic mantras and hymns is superior and subtler to singing non-vedic hymns, stuties and stotrams. Why?
VN: Is it because stuties and stotrams are for a form of the Lord and Vedic Mantras are on the formless?
SS: Vedic hymns like rudram, narayana suktam, ganapati atharva are for form too. Also there are enuf stotrams for formless which are non-vedic. Eg nirvana shatkam
VN: Oh ok
VS: Swamiji is it because the Vedic hymns are not composed but are always present in the cosmos and heard by great Rishis.
So whenever they are chanted they move around like sound waves and have specific effects.
MN: Yeah I agree to an extent
I mean it is said Gayatri Mantra was revealed to Sage Yagnavalkya when he was meditating
Does anyone know any other Vedic hymns that are revelations and not composed by a particular author?
VS: So far as I know all Vedas fall under this and are therefore called Shruthis...
SS: Bingo vinod. 👍. Vedic mantras are revelations to the Rishis. They are not composed by humans. They are also science of sound vibrations and mantras chanted in intonations produce specific vibrations. Pranayama also happens automatically while chanting these mantras. Eg. If you chsnt ganapati atharvashirsha, the form of ganesha appears Automatically. Experiments have proved it.
Shlokas and stutis are composed by rishis and are not science of sound though they also produce some vibrations.
What is important is devotion in chanting or singing overrides everything.
MN: Wow I didn't know all of this...Thank you so much Swamiji for sharing this😇
VS: So are they superior because they give faster results... or they connect faster... Swamiji?
So is Gayatri Mantra superior? But we find it so comfortable imagining a Lord by chanting a simpler Japa mantra. Why is it so?
SS: Superior only due to it being a revelation and science of sound. Yes gayatri mantra is the second most powerful mantra after om. Its the essence of vedic knowledge. Japa also uses vedic mantras or puranic mantras and is powerful method.
VS: Thanks Swamiji
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